A month or so ago, Charlie Glikey from Productive Flourishing and I figured out that despite knowing all of the same people and running in the same online circles, we had never so much as crossed paths except for that time I broke into his house and started throwing aluminum trash cans at his refrigerator.
So I sent him a message on Twitter and he responded and then we’re suddenly on this long-ass Skype call and Charlie and I both have this disease where neither of us can shut up and so we ended up talking for like an hour about how each of us got started and what the lessons were that we’d take from those initial steps, looking back today. When we were done, Charlie had started to sound like Darth Vader to me because Skype does that after around 45 minutes, but we also thought that we had run through a pretty good primer of some “what we learned the first time through” that would probably help people who were just today getting started.
So we decided to schedule a second call and to record it. That’s below.
Here are some bullet points of what we covered:
- How for most people, you could literally get started TODAY, FOR ZERO DOLLARS
- Why it’s a bad idea to wait until you have the perfect concept before beginning
- The fact that Charlie was possibly drunk
- Why “just getting started” is the most important thing
- Although you can get started for free, why it’s a mistake to keep the “free” mindset as you progress
- How to speed your progress through finding and forming relationships (a.k.a. that thing you know more dryly as “networking”)
- The fact that Charlie’s southern accent intensifies when he’s drunk, like possibly on this call
Yours to enjoy, free of charge and so forth. Do us a favor, huh? Let Charlie and I know if you’d like more like this, or if we’re just spending too much time drunk on the phone. Or both.












Please, sirs, may I have some more?
I loved this for many reasons. Here are a few:
1. There is more value to entrepreneurs (and those considering taking that leap) in this one conversation than in whole teleclasses I’ve paid for.
2. I adore each of you individually. Together? Dy-No-Mite!
3. You made subjects that others turn into dry bullet-points sound fresh and casual and fun. And you’ve got this great rapport between the two of you that makes it all so engaging, so I really liked listening to the whole thing, and felt really disappointed when it was over.
You could charge for this if you wanted to. But I’m glad you didn’t, because it was a really nice treat!
(Do more! Do more! More Johnny+Charlie talks!)
Hi Marissa,
Thanks for the review. I think Charlie and I would definitely be willing to do more, especially because we really did no prep and just sort of chatted. So this is like saying, “Would you be willing to have a casual phone conversation from time to time?” Um, yeah, that’d be cool.
I’m not terribly organized, though. Hopefully Charlie is more so.
I like how you guys keep it real here and are open about your progress. No fluff in this interview, just a lot of stuff to chew on. I like what you said about never knowing where leads are going to come from. That’s one of the reasons I try to stay as available as possible for my readers. Like you said, these days we are selling ourselves…often times more than we are selling our products.
Thanks, I agree. We’re very low-fluff. Good that you posted this, actually… I need to ping Charlie about an idea I have for an ongoing thing… hmm…